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off that fiscal cliff. the deadline's tuesday. if the deal isn't reached, taxes will go up on just about everybody. and massive spending cuts will kick in. >>> in india, the young woman gang-raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at that singapore hospital where she was being treated. authorities plan to add murder charges against the six suspects arrested in that rape. the charges will be filed thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more protection for women. and police expect more demonstrations in the days to come. >>> four people are dead after a plane crashed at the moscow airport. four others were injured. eight people were on board, all of them crew members when the plane overshot the runway. don't go away. at 2:00 p.m. eastern, the top stories of the day including that growing outrage over russia's adoption ban. hundreds of americans are frantic after being told their adoptions are not going to go through. we'll also take a look back at the year in politics and the fierce battles the unexpected alliances and of course the best
that would let taxes rise on the wealthiest households while protecting the vast majority of americans from tax hikes set to hit in january. welcome to the saturday edition of "and the washington journal." for the first 45 minutes of the program we are going to be talking about senate negotiating a fiscal clifts deal, what has been going on on that half of the capital. see what they are talking about and how things are going. we want to get your input and your part of the conversation. you can reach out to us on twitter. facebook, facebook.com/cspan. and you can send us an e-mail. this is more from the article, the lead story in "the washington post." they ride, the development marked a breakthrough after weeks of paralysis. joining us by phone is one of the authors of that article, and, laurie, welcome to the program. tell us, what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new in the negotiations among the senators and between the senators and the white house? caller: there does not appear to be anything new. the policies they are talking about are the senate has been on the table
the fiscal cliff that includes no tax increases. sbainer boehner and other republican leaders have been too scared about suffering publicly if the nation goes over the cliff and the tax sbikeses that are triggered in january. now that the plan b has failed these conservative republicans should be empower you ared to make big demands and stop caving to the president out of fear." guest: that doesn't make much sense to me. you have to get it through the house republicans then the president has to sign something, if that doesn't happen then you have very large tax increases a lot more than what they were talking about in their negotiating and you have the defense cuts that happen overtime and some other, nondefense cuts. you really have this huge amount of revenue, a lot of debt reduction. it is hard to see what demands the republicans can think will be easier to make come the new year. guest: plus, we've seen the president's approval level is at a high. and the poll should show that the republicans are going to be blamed if we go over the cliff and taxes go up. that is before the debacle with
with president obama and signals conservative republicans are inwilling to stomach any rise in tax rates even on those making more than $1 million which was mr. boehner's plan. so walk us through what happened on friday. how did we get there? and it seems like the speaker of the house didn't see this coming, and a lot of folks in washington want to know why not? guest: we begin the week with the speaker of the house saying negotiations between he and president obama had stalled. they were stuck on their -- i guess i would say maybe not their final offers but current offers. boehner said he would raise taxes on those making a million a year or more and get all told $1 trillion in tax increases which he wanted to be matched with $1 trillion in spending cuts and the rate increases on those making $1 million or more and remove loopholes and deductions to get the rest in revenue and then you had your spending cuts. the president, sort of depends on how you do your math and counting, but the president -- by scoreible math the president would have been at $1.3 trillion in tax increases and $900 bil
as many americans as the president will permit, or we can end up at an impasse that ensures taxes go up on everyone. let us pass this bill. if it does not work, let us pass whatever level the president will agree to. is not as if we have not repeatedly warned him. my conservative colleagues say sparing some people these tax increases is tantamount to racism among others. a lifeguard who sees 10 swimmers drowning, if he can only save nine, that does not mean he has drowned the 10th one. no lifeguard would be worth his pay if he said, my principle is nobody should drowned off my beach. if i cannot save them all, i will not save any. americans watched as thousands of middle-class jobs are sacrifice on the ideological obama next year, this country will be a lot wiser. until then, let's save the weekend. >> the done in's time has expired. >> i am pleased to yield three minutes. >> the gentleman from michigan is recognized for 3 minutes. >> this is an important moment. these bills move the nation dangerously closer to the cliff. with only 11 days before our nation will go over. they make find
. -- he appeared with eric cantor. this is about 10 minutes. >> the house did not take up the tax bill last night because we did not have the votes to pass. it is not the outcome that i wanted. was the will of the house. unless the president and congress take action, tax rates will go up on every american taxpayer and devastating defense cuts will go into effect in 10 days. the house has already passed bills addressing the fiscal cliff. we passed a bill replacing the president's sequestered with irresponsible spending cuts. we did that last may. we passed a bill to stop all the tax hikes on the american people scheduled to take effect january 1, and we did that august 1. and we proposed plans over and over again that democrats used to support but now will not. i do not want taxes to go up, republican do not want texas to go up. but we only when the house. democrats continued to run washington. what the president has proposed so far simply will not do anything to solve our spending problems. he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he simply will not dea
and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> now what would be in that mini deal? we're talking about tax increases for people at near the top of the income scale. the question is the threshold, 400 or $500,000 are the likely places that that could end up. it would likely turn off the automatic sequester by using some of the revenue from the tax increases to account as budget cuts and turn off they is quester and it would also extend unemployment benefits and do the so-called doc fix to prevent reimbursements from declining and also have a milk fix, michelle that would prevent the doubling of milk prices which would occur without an extension of subsidies. >> why aren't people more optimistic? i haven't heard about enough spending cuts that would bring republican spending cuts. why are republicans more optimistic now? >> they're concerned spending cuts would not be a part of this deal. i talked to an aide who s
, a lot happens. all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put on the table. if you live in the game area, you're going to be reading about the cliff whether you like it or not. we at starbucks have an opportunity and i believe a responsibility to use our company's scale for good, by sending a respectful and optimistic message to our officials to come together and reach important ground. this week, through december 28th, partners at our washington, d.c., area stores are writing come together on customer's cups. i am hugely in favor of this new starbucks initiative. not because i think writing come together on coffee cups will bring anybody in washington together, i have a
. why? this would give democrats everything they want. they would get to raise taxes, and then, to top it off, the shoulders of republican mÑwxj >>> and watch this. >> american people, i don't think understand the house representative is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictator ship )÷!>> let him take the country over the fiscal cliff if he so chooses. they were elected to get the fiscal house in order. now is the time for republicans to stand up for your kids and grandchildren. maybe she the should say they're looking out for the future, future generations maybe now is the time to take a stabbed stand and say they're not going let washington continue with this out of control spending, debt, maybe now, at this moment, maybe that is the right thing to do. and joining me now with reaction to this developing story are two house republicans, congressman louie gomert. welcome back to "hannity". >> good to be with you. >> sean, i can -- . >> sean: go ahead. >> i can sympathize that he can not imagine our consciences in the house because you'
serious tax hikes and spending cuts that would potentially send the u.s. into another recession. we don't want to see that a. right now senate leaders are trying to assemble a last minute tax deal that they hope can pass both chambers of congress. and make it to the president's desk before monday's midnight deadline. chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel has more on this. what are the latest on these talks to avoid a fiscal catastrophe? >> the key negotiators have been tight lipped, which may be a good sign talking to one another and not to reporters. senate majority leader harry reid and mitch mcconnell asked president obama and other congressional leaders to give them time to work on a compromise deal, recognizing time is running out. again today, the president emphasized the need for action. >> and congress can prehave not it from happening if they act now. leaders in congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> we are told conversations are taking place. m
the middle class from tax hikes on the first of the year. >> we've heard plenty of people calling for new gun control laws, but very little from the national rifle association until now. in a bizarre news conference that was interrupted twice by protesters, the head of the nra. it's the same line we've heard before from the nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of the real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. and they've lurched too far to the right. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff, msnbc political analyst and msnbc contributor jared bernstein. jentle men, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to senate majority leader harry reed. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner and i also met with senator reed. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for two million americans and lays the
: the president is getting higher taxes if we go over the cliff and he can go back and change the tax rate for those making $250,000 or less. the speaker saying it has to be $1 million or above. the president much more in the driver's seat. guest: yes and no. let's say we go over the cliff and that's the markets are in a panic and people have paychecks that have less money in them. people will not necessarily blame john boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what
ticks. house speaker john boehner announced his plan b to let bush-era tax cuts expire for earners making more than $1 million a year and he wants to set automatic spending cuts with unspecified cuts elsewhere. the speaker pulled his so-called plan b for lack of support from his own party because many republicans still beholden to grover nor quest and the ridiculous pledge want no compromise at all. the debate between the two sides centers around a balanced approach the budget. republicans say president obama wants too much revenue. that's taxes in normal speak and not enough cuts. >> at some point we're going to have to address the spending problem that we have. we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need economic growth. many believe the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama doesn't see it that way. >> at some point there's got to be i think a recognition on the part of my republican friends, that you know, take the
to washington. congress is also coming back tomorrow. there's less than one week left to avert the tax hikes and automatic cuts that go in to effect january the 1st. it looks like any deal will be a lot smaller than everyone want. >> realistically, i personally i don't think we'll get the big plan in the next six days. be great if we could . >> but this morning, bernie sanders said the blame is with the republicans. >> there's really a great deal of concern that the republican party failed to do anything. that it seems that in the house now boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >>> want to bring in david nakamara and meredith shiner. david, i'll start with you. you know, the president coming back for appearance sake as some might say or, you know, when we look at what he can do tomorrow what might he have in the works here? >> richard, i think to get a look at that, look at friday scaling down the proposal. he said i want a big deal ultimately but before the new year we don't have time and probably going to work with senate -- the senate to sort of come up with a possib
in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall street journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, that the president threatened boehner, he said i will use my inaugural address to blame you for tax increases and for the fiscal cliff going overboard. that brings out pretty big guns when it comes to a president's bully pulpit. if atlantes to use that to play politics, that's significant. >> i have to bring this up. but how did they get to the point where the speaker tried to bring a vote to his caucus to be rejected? how did they not see that coming in why did he bother trying to bring the vote? >> because there's two
. now time for your h comments. writing into their hope barack obama gets all the taxes he wants. i'll bthe first to say i toldd you so when the consequence happens.n t people learn the hard way.n obama never negotiate, he just demands something of complaints. when he doesn't get what he wants. he is far more mature than that, don't you think? we will keep thinking about that. thank you for your comments. we love hearing from you. we love hearing from you. >>> a massive winter storm wreaks havoc bringing blinding snow and devastang tornadoes. at least six are dead, over a thousand flights canceled nationwide stranding holiday travelers and worries things could get worse. welcome, i'm eric bolling in for neil cavuto and this is your world and we're tracking a deadly winter storm as it makes its way towards the east coast. in indiana, heavy snow stranding dozens of vehicles asolkseal with blizzard. a foot in bloming to know. across the south and southst 34 twisters leveled homes. in mississippi for than 25 people injured and 70 homes damaged. that number expected to rise. the storm kn
and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me at this hour a deal is looking doubtful. of course, we want to underscore the fact that these negotiations are very fluid so that characterization could change at any moment, but it seems as though the discuss
cuts and tax hikes for nearly every american. i'm gregg jarrett. welcome to a brand-new hour. >> arthel: i'm art article. 11th how-hour scrambling after a meeting with president obama and leaders from the house and senate with high noon fast approaching, president is pushing to seal the deal. >> modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get hundred percent of what they want. let's make sure that middle-class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can do their can't do their jobs. >> arthel: now the latest. >> discussions are ongoing but we shouldn't expect any announcements before senators are briefed. key players are pretty tight-lipped. after a white house meeting yesterday, one of the top negotiators sounded hopeful. >> we had a longs meeting in the white house, very constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> reporter: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told th
it to the conversation of exactly where these tax cuts could take place if they happened after january 1st. the republicans want to vote to lower taxes. okay? see them go right to left as it were. the democrats want to see them go down and the republicans it appears increasingly clear are not going to vote to change the figure below the $1 million mark that boehner didn't get past the caucus unless they say to their people at home, they voted to lower taxes on all americans. >> peter, that was extraordinary. >> reporter: i tried. >> one of the best on this show. thank you! >> we have also got mike viqueira. mike? a lot of people and myself included believe that the payroll tax cut is the most damaging part of this for the middle class. if we do not extend it $125 billion comes out of the economy this year. so, you know, when's the latest on the payroll tax cut? any chance it's extended as part of a deal? >> reporter: great question. i cannot compete with peter's metaphor. it's a full court heave as the buzzer is sounding. that's the odds for a deal before monday night new year's eve. the p
. democrats would get to raise taxes on you, every american. they will get massive defense cuts that they have always dreamed of, and to top it all off they would also get to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of republican lawmakers. but this president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken with our economy. and yesterday they detailed how serious this situation is. in a let secretary geithner explains what will happen if the u.s. hits the debt ceiling on the 31st and is not able to pay their bills. treasury department will have to take extraordinary measures. i'm not sure what he hopes to achieve by sending that letter because the senator leader has showed he's incapable of acting. they have not passed a budget in the u.h. senate in over 1,000 days. and in speaking on the senate floor instead of offering solutions senator reed started pointing fingers again and again. watch this. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we are headed, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left, aren't here with the speaker having told them he will give them 4
, what's hanging on the edge of the cliff is higher taxes on dividends. coming up, the chairman and ceo of southern company owning a bunch of power companies in the south tells us why the tax hike would be a huge blow to his industry, a blow everybody will feel as usual. it's passed on to you, the consumer. >> financials a big winner up this year we have an analyst who expects the gravy train to roll on next year. find out the banks he likes for 2013. david: a lot to cover, but first, what drove the markets with the data download. ending the week down more than 1.5%. lack of progress, of course, in the miscall cliff negotiations, and all ten s&p sectors in the negative tear -- territory the second week in a row. oil slipped into the red today, but finished the holiday shortened weekend positive. notching at 2.4% gain to end the week, again, over the $90 mark, $90.80 a barrel. home sales jumping to the highest level in two and a half years last month. the national association of retailer -- excuse me, realtors. index rose 1.7%. >> good news. we have sandra smith in the pits of the cme, a
-down deal that would spare the middle class from tax hikes on the first of the year. the president met with harry reid and spoke with john boehner. is a grand bargain still possible when everyone is leaving town? >> a week from the shooting massacre that left 20 children and six educators dead, we have heard plenty of people calling for new gun control laws but very little from the national rifle association until now. in a bizarre news conference, the head of the nchl ra said the solution of gun violence in this country is simple, more guns. armed officers in every school. it is the same line we have heard before from the nra. has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown. what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. they have lurnlged too far to the right. president obama tapped kerry to be the next secretary of state. let me finish with the great new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. we begin with where things stand on the
that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends unemployment to the 2 million americans looking for a job and lays groundwork for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face-to-face closed door meeting at the white house today between all the key players, the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary and all four congressional leaders huddled together with just four days to go before we all go overs fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. on a story where every second and every maneuver counts, let's get chief to white house correspondent jessica yellin. jessica, the president says he's modestly optimist being but each also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no, they don't, john, because the white house is hopeful that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that poss
package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> and just moments ago, senator harry reid says he's readying a bill for a vote by monday. all this follows a rare face to face-closed-door meeting at the white housed to between all the key players. the president, the vice president, the treasury secretary, and all four congressional leaders. huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the agreement that the senators a
and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big news of the day, and isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it is prp's way of sayi
, people paycheck get smaller because the payroll taxes expire. people will have to pay in their taxes to a different way. the alternative minimum tax won't be patched and we'll have to be addressed as well. taxes will go up. spending cuts over time will happen as well. i think the stock market will be hit hard. i have the most to lose than anyone i know but the only way to fix the economy. >> eric: president obama wants tax cuts to expire for everyone except those making under $250,000 a year. john boehner plan "b" making $1 million. this looked like president obama coming back with the same deal at 250. they are miles apart. >> kimberly: you were able to speak to people on the hill. what was your reaction? >> andrea: the president spread the stories that he will come to the table with a deal. swan dive off the fiscal cliff, hold your nose. we're going off. president obama wants to us go off hecht will come back with a largeer plan. the obama tax cut. then he will be able to reintate across-the-board sequestration cuts. 8.2% across the board. cut defense and health. they will be able
in the democrats' court saying the debt is too high, spending out of control and taxes should not go up. in the g.o.p.'s weekly address, he accused the president and the democrats of refusing to accept a reasonable compromise. >> the best way to address our crippling debt is to make significant spending cuts and fix our tax code. to pave the way for long term growth and opportunity. this is an approach most americans support and remains republicans' highest priority. but we only run the house. democrats continue to run washington. >> reporter: the president left town for his traditional christmas in hawaii and he and his family arriving there this morning and he has gotten in a round of golf already. before leaving the white house, he stayed back hayes spe-- scal back his expectations, and he said it is time for compromise. >> president barack obama: we move forward together sore we don't move forward at all. so, as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody perspective. >> reporter: if nothing is done by the end of the year taxes go up on eve
new rasmussen poll, 44% think that republicans are more to blame for not going far enough on tax increases. 36% say that obama is more to blame for not agreeing to more spending cuts and 15% blame both sides. joining us now from new york, julie riganski, a democratic strategist and here in washington, steven moore, a member of the "wall street journal" editorial board. sesteven, let's start with you. great to hear harry reid on this. the last time i checked the do so called proposal that a he put forth in july didn't really receive any support and only dealt with tax increases. it wasn't a comprehensive deal and didn't involve real spending cuts it was just raise tax and it went no where. for him to blame republicans, come on. >> don't forget, it has been 13 hyundais since hair arery reid even passed a budget out of the united states senate. we don't even know what the united states senators stand for in terms of the budget debate. the same thing on taxes. the house actually passed a lot of people don't know that earlier this year the house passed a bill to extend all of the bush
. house gop puts middle class americans in jeopardy while clinging to tax cuts for the wealthy. no 48 notice on house votes. the potus on his way to d.c. to address fiscal cliff for the middle class with six days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill through the house. he realized he didn't have enough votes for that. that fell apart as well. the ball is in the senate's court. according to an aide, senate majori
are optimistic about a mini deal which, of course, will raise taxes on those above $400,000. expand the amt, cut some spending. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, hearing a lot of different things right now. one of the items and ruled by rumor and then denials and frustrations, toure. we know that we saw senators mcconnell and reid arriving a short time ago. we didn't pelosi and boehner arrive yet but the vice president joe biden got here a short time ago, as well. there's other reporting from the hill right now about the potential that the president is going to return to what was basically his original outlined plan. perhaps a smaller plan but a plan where the threshold would be set closer to $250,000 as he initially had before the $400,000 offer that john boehner the white house would contend walked away from when he proposed his $1 million threshold in this situation right now. that and a priority that the president outlined a week ago on friday before leaving to join the family in hawaii saying he wanted to extend unemployment benefits for a lot of americans. 2 million plus beginning t
, the only thing is he'll be proposing to his caucus a tax cut. everybody changes on january 3rd. you're no longer talking about some people getting a tax increase. harry reid and john boehner for instance said -- the speaker saying the senate should take it up. harry reid is speaking on the floor. let's take a listen. >> because americans' taxes are approaching the wrong direction come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. if we go over the cliff, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll give them 48 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences where they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. they are not in washington, d.c. the house of representatives are not here. they couldn't even get the leadership together yesterday. they had to do it with a teleconference. republican leadership. if we go over the cliff, we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been about a single vote. mr. speaker,
, the scaled-down plan which would keep taxes low for 98% of americans, raising them for folks over 250, extending unemployment benefits. would you vote for that as an alternative to going over the fiscal cliff? >> i would have voted just to extend the tax cuts for 99.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to
. the talks are a last-ditch effort to avoid spending cuts and tax hikes from 90% of american households. mike emanuel is live on capitol hill where all the action is taking place. is there a lot of action? there is a lot of buzz on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell, who will be attending a white house meeting told us a few moments ago that we are always the running out of time. chairman max baucus, the democrat says that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill and bill clinton and president eisenhower, we need leadership on not just taxing rich people, but we contact them and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. greg: others are skeptical, noting that high-profile meetings are for show often times and all about tactics. we expect the president will try a stopgap measure extending middle-class tax rates, extending unemp
it will have on almost every american. taxes up, programs cut probably sending us back into a recession. the ball is now clearly with the senate. senator reid and senator mcconnell have the ability to put this together again and pass something. it won't be a big, grand bargain to take care of the total debt, but they can do some things that will avoid the worst consequences going over the fiscal cliff. i've talked to a lot of republican colleagues in the senate who are favorably incl e inclined toward the idea it to protect the middle class from the tax cuts. let's raise taxes on people over 250,000, and let's stop those terrible cuts in defense, homeland security, education, et cetera. >> not much time left. senator, after 24 years in the u.s. senate you are retiring, but you still have work to do. so i'm not going to say good-bye to you now, because i imagine we might speak to you again. >> i told my colleagues they're doing it to make sure those of us retiring this year work every last day of the term. we're going to spend new year's eve here i believe. >> thanks for the cheery note
. fiscal faceoff or new year's resolution. also one tax that will go up. marilyn monroe closely watched by the fbi. director's feud over "django unchained" and a chance for 100 lucky people to star in the super bowl halftime show alongside beyonce'. details on those stories throughout the hour. >>> but up first, right now senate leaders scrambling to find common ground to avoid going over that fiscal cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have sp
that would spare the middle class on tax hikes from the first of the year. he spoke with john boehner tonight but is grand bargain still possible when everybody is leaving town. then in the weeks since the shooting massacre in a town that left hand 20 children and six educators dead, we've been hearing for plenty calling for new gun control laws but little from the nra until now. in a bizarre meeting, the head of the nra said the solution to gun vie lerchs in this country is simple. more guns. armed officers, in fact, in every school. it's the same line we've heard from nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise and they've lurched too far to the right. >>> plus replacing hillary clinton, john kerry gets the job he's waited for his whole life. president obama tapped john kerry as the next secretary of state. >>> and let me finish with the new movie about getting bin laden and how one person can make a huge difference. >>> we begin with the fiscal c
one of the funny things that is going on with the tax rate situation is that everyone is talking about this as a new revenue. president obama says his plan would produce x dollars more than boehner's plan. both of them are talking about extending tax cuts for 98% of the people. but the main loss of revenue to the government according to a current law is. that is why the caller said we need to go over the cliff. i'm surprised that many callers were willing to go over the cliff. she mentioned that would be a chance for a recess, i think that is part of what is going on with people who believe they want to go from the republican standpoint, if you go over the cliff and the tax rates go back up, you instantly thought and the tax base. it also means more taxpayers are paying. instead of having 50% of taxpayers having no liability because their income is too low and because of deductions, you have a higher percentage that are pain and a broader base. you have more people to start sweating out more money from. once you do these spending cuts, then you decide from the standpoint of, we h
are working with the white house. plus, what it all means for your paycheck as higher payroll taxes are only days away unless congress acts. one step forward, two steps back. president obama and republican lawmakers have been dancing that waltz for six weeks now, but the music stops when the countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the
leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called to do. this is 112th congress. we have had two years to deal with quote the fiscal cliff. >> let's bring in our man at the white house, peter alexander standing by. pete, we just got word the president it appears is making some sort of smaller offer at th
for compromise. he has an urgent plea to extend the tax cuts in the next ten days. he's basically calling for a stopgap bill that will avoid tax hikes on 98% of americans. he's willing to waiten o the rest. >>> meanwhile, stocks had a fiscal cliff selloff. but even a deal in january for the cliff is going to be all right if you ask me. and today's economic numbers pretty darn good. and the gun control debate heats up again today after a controversial nra news conference in washington. the "kudlow report" begins right now. >>> all right. let's first look at the market reaction to this fiscal cliff stuff. jackie joins us with the details. good evening, jackie. >> good evening to you, larry. while markets finished lower on the day, they were higher on the week. the dow up about .5%, the nasdaq higher by 1.7%, and the s&p 500 up by roughly 1.2% over the last five days. meantime in terms of sector performance, the financials, they had a rough day. the plan "b" proposal for the fiscal cliff. up more than 3% for the week. also technology and materials they finished lower on the day, as well, but
to a deal. the white house had agreed to cut their tax ask by about 400 billion, to increase their spending cuts by another 400 billion and only ask for about half as much stimulus. they moved toward boehner by more than a trillion dollars. that was a lot of concessions from the team that had just won the election big. and they made them because they thought boehner was ready to say yes, the fiscal cliff would be averted, we'd have a good christmas and happy economic fun times for the economy would be right around the corner. they were wrong. >> we are nowhere when it comes to the fiscal cliff talks. let me tell you what's going to happen today. speaker john boehner, the republican speaker, is going to try to pass what he calls his plan b, which would just simply address tax rates for those making a million dollars or more and that's it. >> john boehner walked away from the obama administration's third offer. a giant, giant compromise. so he didn't like it when they led. he didn't like the 2340eshing. he decided instead to chart his own course called plan b. plan b was supposed to show pres
's no deal, let's look at what happens to tax rates in just seven days and these stats are from the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with
for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have some time to reflect here. the president said that he did speak on the phone to speaker john boehner this afternoon. he also had majority leader harry reid to avoid the fiscal cliff and figure out a passport. he said he is ready and willing to try to get a compromise package done. all at once or stuff like that. but we'll have to wait until after the holiday. the president planning to hold out for the holidays, and congress is out for the holidays. the president saying that putting pressure began on republicans, house republicans, to least extend tax cuts for the middle class. that would be the step by scratch in transit approach and he is speaking to constituents back home who he hopes will give feedback to members of congress while they are there for the holiday to try to get t
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